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Monday, June 27, 2011

I am Ashamed of Some Pagans...

I have been reading reviews for books for a few days now, trying to decide what I'm going to order next. I have to say that I'm appalled and ashamed of the way some Pagans speak about others. All the bullshit about "fluffy bunny" this and that and how "so-and-so" isn't reputable and you should stay away from them is ridiculous. It is possible to review something that you didn't like without going on a rant about how that author is a "fluffy bunny" for 4 paragraphs. Yes, even I agree that some authors are better than others, but that doesn't mean that I go around blasting their work and slandering their name. I know, I've ranted about this before, but it seriously pisses me off. Seeing adults act worse than children with all the name calling and crap is seriously disappointing. Really, if you don't like something, say so and move on! 

I personally don't love and adore Scott Cunningham, Raymond Buckland and the Farrars. There! I said it! I own a few Buckland and Cunningham books, as well as A Witches' Bible by the Farrars and I think that reading those was important for me, but I don't have a shrine for their work or something, nor do I go around complaining about how they don't practice the same way I do, therefore they must not be true Pagans & Witches (or must have been, since not all are still with us). 

Being a Witch and/or a Pagan is a lifelong journey, if you remain on that path. You should be constantly learning and growing. If you are reading books for information, advice, etc., I think it's a good thing to read whatever you can get your hands on and decide for yourself what you do and do not like and agree with. I don't think that name calling, gossip, slander, and other unpleasant things like that are good examples of your spiritual and mundane maturation. If anything, it just shows ignorance, close mindedness and immaturity. Maybe that's just my opinion, though.


  1. I like and own some of the works of all the authors you mentioned, but gosh, it doesn't bother me that you don't fawn all over them. A couple of other authors come to mind at your mention of the fluffy bunny reviews because I've heard comments to that effect myself. Whenever I've heard those things, I've always felt sad for the authors. And while I may have shied away from those books for my purposes at the time, in some cases I've gone back and read them anyway later on. If they appeal to me, there might be something in them for me. To each their own. Although, in some cases I think book warnings, when given honestly, gently and for sound reasons, are good. Whew! Enough commas and confusion for ya there?

  2. Some people always have to complain about something--always hating on someone else because they're unhappy with something. As if their deities really care that another's practices are different.

    I'm a lover of books and of reading about magik, religions, and cultures. There are books I've read where I'm iffy about, but that's their path. To each their own. So what if someone doesn't want to deal with the "darkside" of magik? Or the darkside of life period? Personally,I think that's an unbalanced life, but these paths we walk are lifetime journeys. As long as they're not condemning me, I don't care. Even then, I know who I am. My Spirits love and respect me. So-and-so doesn't know a thing about me. Just making judgements.

    Our paths are something that you have to be dedicated to, and willing to evolve and adapt. Accept your mistakes and learnings. Allow them to shape your beliefs. I'm certainly not the same Witch I was 10 years ago, heck even 3 years ago! I went through my Sweetness and Light period, too. That's the point of life, to live. Good post. Blessings. ~)O(~

  3. It's kind of strange that I just wrote a post about this exact same topic myself. It started because someone made a comment to me saying these authors were "frauds." I had heard them called a lot of things before but fraud was a first for me.

  4. I've seen a few blogs on this topic over the past few days. Sabrina posted one the same day as me. I have a blog and a video ranting about it, I think.

  5. I whole-heartedly agree.

    Hell, when people ask for ideas of books to read, I NEVER tell them "Oh, stay away from Silver RavenWolf, she's such a *blankety-blankin'* poser!!!" or crap like that.

    I'm of the opinion that there is something to be learned and gleaned from every Pagan author and I, quite frankly, learned a lot from Silver as I started out learning. She answered a lot of questions I had a put several misgivings to rest. She was a great ice-breaker for me, but I don't go all ga-ga over her, nor do I rake her name through the mud.

    I don't bounce on Fiona Horne just because she's gifted and famous. I don't accuse her of "only being into Witchcraft for the 'shock value' or 'getting famous'" crap. I have found her books to be very knowledgeable and, while she dives right in to even the controversial topics, I find her take even on those topics to be bluntly honest. Like using drugs. She actually talks about it in one of her books and while most people I know would instantly shriek in fear and go running at the mere mention of someone using drugs for magickal purposes, she doesn't flinch from it. She gave her honest opinion about using drugs as a crutch rather than developing your personal discipline.

    Like you, I get tired of all the retarded bashing that several Pagans resort to and I srsly think that "fluffy bunny" needs to be removed from peoples' vocabularies. >.< I got called "fluffy" MANY times back when I was new and I had a question. *shakes head*

  6. Speaking of Fiona, I personally haven't read any of her books yet (I have one on a shelf, just haven't gotten to it), but the other day a Pagan that I did have a lot of respect for called her something like the dumbest Pagan to ever live.

    I also think Silver is a great ice breaker. Sure, Bucky and Cunningham are good, Marion Weinstein is awesome, Z. Budapest kicks ass, etc., but I was NINE when I learned about Wicca, Witchcraft and Paganism for the first time. Even though I was reading on a college level when I was 12, there are some things I just wouldn't have been ready to read at that age.

    I also totally agree about there being things that you can learn from any book. When people ask me for recommendations, I give them a list of every book I can think of that I've read, whether I liked it or not, and tell them to figure out which ones they like and use those to find more, etc. Being called "fluffy" nearly prevented me from continuing as a Witch, all because I like Silver and other stupid reasons.

  7. I'm one of those people that will take other people's opinions to where I remember what they said, but I still wait to make my own judgments until I read something for myself. :-)

    I've only got one of Fiona's books, "Witch: A Magickal Journey" and yes, I will say that she can come across a little bit like a Diva, but other than that, I haven't really found anything overtly wrong with anything she's written. I might not personally agree with everything, but I've not seen anything that would mark her as being the "dumbest Pagan ever" or anything like that LoL

    And trust me, I totally hear ya on all the "fluffly" name-calling >.< And it was the same for me. I practically got gang-banged on this Wiccan community on LiveJournal just because I DARED to list out why I liked Silver RavenWolf and would recommend her for beginners.

  8. LOL That's the same book I have. I got it from a friend a few weeks ago.

  9. Back in the day, my first witchy books were Leland's Aradia and Z Budapest's A Feminist Book of Light and Shadow. Finding anything was almost impossible. I still have a few tattered pages from Nancy Passmore's first Lunar Calendar, which also had some great information. I soaked up knowledge from wherever I could find it. Mythology, Dianic Wicca, Ceremonial Magick, Native traditions, whatever I could find. I wove together everything that worked for me. Early on, the Morrigan called me. Took me years to answer that call. She scared me, quite honestly. I couldn't figure out what she wanted with a peace love tie-dye little hippie chick. Now I'm an old Pagan Witch hippie. And I honor the Morrigan, and that her for her (somewhat unusual) patience in waiting for me. And I am now known in some circles as SisterCrow.